Christmas Joy
Christmas JoyWhat if December 25 was a pagan holiday before Christmas claimed that date?
Author: mike | Filed under: Religion & Spirituality
AumBomb asked:
If Christmas and Easter had STRONG ties to paganism, would that put your belief into question?
- Tags: Christmas, Pagan Holiday, Ties
Mia
October 11th, 2008 at 6:17 pm
Most Christians know that it was a pagan holiday and it doesn’t bother them.
tickled blue
October 12th, 2008 at 8:24 am
They did, that isn’t in question…it’s fact.
lorie v
October 15th, 2008 at 8:44 am
No I’m just fine with it thanks
Mintz
October 16th, 2008 at 4:59 am
Well what do Easter Bunnies and Christmas trees have to do with a Christian Easter and Christmas?
Sounds pretty pagan to me.
Sean the Holy Pirate
October 19th, 2008 at 3:30 am
Well December 25th was the birth date of Mithra who was a deity worshipped around the same time as Jesus.
a cat from hell
October 20th, 2008 at 10:22 pm
christmas and easter is a pagan holiday.
The Oracle
October 21st, 2008 at 12:50 pm
It does.
As Pagans, we celebrate the winter equinox around the 21st December and we call it Yule (old Pagan word) this is when we celebrate the concept of the birth of the sun god. i.e. from that day on the days get longer again and the sun returns to the land.
We celebrate Easter as Ostara. This is a time for fertility to be celebrated – hence the egg.
All of it got purloined by christians
Ruby
October 22nd, 2008 at 10:17 am
i told my christian friend that and she was like:
“omg not it wasent, it has always been a christian holiday, paganism is like evil”
pshhh
natkra09
October 24th, 2008 at 11:13 pm
Christians started celebrating Christmas on December 25, because they wanted to make a statement to the pagans that they would worship Jesus, and Jesus alone. This is why Christmas is celebrated on the same day as a pagan holiday.
gestol
October 27th, 2008 at 5:22 pm
No, Jesus was born, suffered, died and rose again, once and for all men as a sacrifice to reconcile sinful man with a holy
God. What days the catholic church later decided on for holidays , has no influence on the facts. And yes,
christmas was undoubtedly a pagan celebration previously.
Mabel B
October 28th, 2008 at 6:08 am
I’ve been called a hypocrite by christians before for celebrating christmas and easter, the mind boggles!
Monica V
October 31st, 2008 at 3:06 am
I grew up knowing that Dec. 21st was Baal’s/Sol’s birthday, and that the Catholics stole the season and made it 25 Dec. as they politically “Christianized” the Roman empire under Constantine.
This clued me in that Catholicism is strait from the pit of hell, but there’s nothing wrong with Biblical Christianity.
Xey
November 2nd, 2008 at 4:21 pm
I personally do not really celebrate or am not excited about Christmas as it’s not biblical at all. Not only was Christmas not celebrated in the Bible, Jesus wasn’t born on 25th Dec.
However if there is a church service or dinner on that day, I would attend, no problem, as I would any other normal service. The only good thing I see about Christmas is we get to invite unbelievers to church and they are more likely to go on Christmas.
Anyway, I won’t stop others from celebrating it. One esteem one day above others, another esteem every the same.
Matthew
November 4th, 2008 at 9:19 am
It was. December 25th also wasn’t Jesus’ birthday (The shepherds and sheep were outside at night, who would do that in the middle of WINTER), hence there is no religious reason to celebrate christmas, hence (and for other reasons as well) I don’t celebrate Christmas.
Hence I don’t need to question my belief, since I know they are fake.
the01animal
November 6th, 2008 at 1:31 pm
in fact Easter has a ver strong tie to paganism it come from ishtar the goddess of fertility that is why the eggs (fertility sing) and bunny (well what do rabbits do? they multiply) Easter is not biblicakl even thogh it is mentioned ONCE in the bible pick up a college dictionary and look up easter it says it all the Christian holiday that people call easter is pascal or passover it is a high holy day easter hes no biblical roots at all in fact God hates “grove worchip” the easter tradition is the spring festival of grove worshippers celebrating “mother earth” and fertility thay would pray to ishtar that the women would get pregnant every spring so their “tribe” or civilization would grow they would hold a spring fertility party that involved all the women running around outside get impregnated by every able man to insure they would get pregnant it is a traditon of grove worship and a giant spring **** literally
but to answer your question no my faith is not in question itis solid i do not celebrate easter just pascal my wife will not be knocked up by anyone and everyone in the town where i live as was the easter tradition
im not saying to look it up in the bible look it up in a college level dictionary it is a spring **** a free for all
as for dec 25th that is not the “birthday” of Christ as is commonly taught it is rather His conception day but this lesson is far too long for this forum however just 1 question
if Christ was born on dec 25th why were ther shepherds tending their flock in the field? sheep dont graze in the middle of december
Christs actual birthday is sept 29th to understand it though u must learn of the 24 courses of the levite priests and the key to it is the course of abaya Dr. bullinger made a bible with appendices that lays it out pretty clearly but none the less God declares life begins at conception not birth so that is why dec 25th is still considered as Christ’s day or Christmas
DB
November 7th, 2008 at 1:15 pm
December the 25th was a pagan holiday, celebrated for the birth of ‘Orisis’ the son of ‘Horus’ and Ísis’, egyptian God and Goddess’s respectively. The Romans incorporated the ritual into the ‘Sol Invictus’ or the cult of the Ínvicible Sun.
This was an example of what is termed “Transmorgrification”or the bringing together of two religions to make one.
This should question the foundations of christianity!
Strong w/ Jesus
November 10th, 2008 at 10:51 am
December 25th to January 6th, Romans celebrated a sun god, Mirtha and had their winter solstice in the mid 3rd century.
Now…
Jesus was not actually born on December 25th. If you read about His birth in the Bible it says that the shepherds were in the fields tending to their flocks. Therefore, if the flocks were in the field it had to be birthing time which was in the spring. Israel is on the same seasonal calender as America. So in our December is was to cold for the sheep to be out in the field and seeing as how it was winter there would be no grass for them to eat. December 25th was aside as a day to honor Jesus’ birth during the 4th century by the Western Roman Catholic Church. (The Eastern Roman Greek Orthodox Church recognized Jesus’ birth on January 6th)
As for Easter that date coincides w/ the passover. Jesus did partake in the passover (His last supper) before He was crucified. Passover is the same time every year on the Hebrew/Jewish calender (they have about 383-385 days a year) and America goes off that when they set the day for Easter. Palm Sunday is the day Jesus entered Jerusalem, Good Friday or Black Friday is the day He died, and 3 days later, Easter (Sunday), He arose.
To answer your question, no it does not bother me because I celebrate Jesus’ birth, life, death, and resurrection EVERY day.
Bobby The Wolf JPA
November 13th, 2008 at 4:58 pm
It was, it is Yule.
Yule starts on the winter solstice (usually Dec 21st) and lasts 12 days.
Also in Hinduism the winter solstice has always been a time of celebration. In modern times the name for this holiday is Pancha Ganapati, it starts on the winter Solstice (around Dec 21st) and lasts for five days.
MyWish
November 15th, 2008 at 8:11 am
No. To Christians, there are 2 holy weeks during Easter – Palm Sunday, Good Friday and Resurrection Sunday. Here’s an example why not; Jesus was crucified on the cross, the same that was historically Rome’s favorite death instrument of torture on criminals, enemies and other outcasts. After Jesus died on that same cross, his death and resurrection has given now and in future, miracles, faith, and a new spiritual life. That cross is now a reminder of Jesus’ sacrifice and has been transformed from an instrument of torture into a symbol of victory over death into eternal life. Christmas came about when the faith of Jesus was preached throughout the known ancient world and many Roman citizens became Christians. Now what was Emperor Constantine suppose to do when even the members of his own household became believers? Hence the Council of Nicaea took place then there was changing of times and observances. Christmas – which was a day honoring Nimrod (IHS; known as Isis, Horus and Seb) was transformed by Rome’s Council as the day to commemorate the Lord’s birthday on earth. From Rome’s ancient Council this has become a custom that is celebrated around the world to give a memorial to Jesus rather than to Nimrod.
Now those who don’t believe in Jesus or God may find paganism an acceptable form of worship. As a Christian, I recognize Jesus Christ and God the Father as Lord.
Amanda S
November 16th, 2008 at 1:59 am
Did you know that Christmas trees are pagan? How about mistletoe? Easter eggs? Yep, all of it has Pagan ties. There is no “if” about it. In all actuality, our only holidays that have set dates are Samhain (eve of October 30 until eve of November 1), Imbolc (February 1), Beltane (May 1), and Lughnasadh (August 1). The dates of the Lesser Sabbats which are the Winter Solstice, Spring Equinox, Summer Solstice, and the Autumn Equinox are determined by the sun (Solstice is when the sun is out the longest or the shortest and Equinox is when the day and night hours are equal). So to properly answer your question: Even if December 25 was a Pagan holiday before Christmas claimed that date, I would still be Pagan and celebrate the Pagan way.
?Bella?
November 18th, 2008 at 8:33 am
December 21st is a Pagan holiday.
But “the birth of the sun” (son) is what the Christian’s took from the Pagan’s Winter Solstice.